If they're really, bottom line, metaphysically speaking, the same thing, then you couldn't have one without the other after all.

如果从形而上学的角度说,它们终归是一体的,那你根本不可能将两者分离开来

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Now it goes without saying that Milton has not been up to this point writing an allegorical poem. The creatures moving and speaking have been actual creations of the deity, with the strange exception of Medusa.

不用说，弥尔顿从未,写过寓言诗，这些移动着的说着话的生灵,是由神创造的，除了美杜莎这个奇怪的例外。

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