Because we had this kind of antiseptic separation between suffering and non-suffering until we are the one suffering.

而我们一无所知，这是因为一道坚固的高墙隔开,我们和身处苦难的人们,直到我们亲自尝到苦难，这种隔离才会消失。

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So, if you like, I've built a separation between the user and the implementer.

好，也就是说这样做,把用户和实现者分离了。

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If I play the D above it, it's dissonant, the D below it,it's dissonant, but let's say I go down to the A below it, allowing a little separation between the two pitches now.

如果我弹它上方的D音，这个声音是不和谐的，它下方的D音，不和谐，但是如果我弹它下方的A音，让这两个音高之间产生一点空隙。

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