Let me just read two texts to that effect, first going back to Roland Barthes on page 877.

让我们读两篇和这个意思大致相同的文章，首先翻回877页罗兰，巴特的文章。

耶鲁公开课 - 文学理论导论课程节选

In Franny and Zooey, what did you notice? Tell me what you noticed, at first bat, if any of you have read it.

在《弗兰尼与佐伊》里，你们注意到了什么，告诉我，首先问一下，你们有谁读了它吗。

耶鲁公开课 - 1945年后的美国小说课程节选

Let me ask you a question first about John Barth and the stories that I asked you to read. Which of them was your favorite? Some cackling I hear None of them?Which of them was your favorite?

我先来问你们一个关于约翰·巴斯和我让你们读的,故事的问题，你们最喜欢哪个故事，我听到一些咯咯笑的声音,都不喜欢吗，你们最喜欢哪个故事啊？

耶鲁公开课 - 1945年后的美国小说课程节选