Now whether or not any of this is true, believe me, is neither here nor there.

不管这些正确与否，相信我，关键不在于此。

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Maybe you'll now believe Hobbes if you don't believe me. So the state of nature, it's a state of insecurity, it's a state of conflict.

如果你不相信我的话，你也不一定相信霍布斯,所以自然状态,是一种不安全的状态，是一种矛盾的状态。

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