We have to ask oursleves when Socrates puts his argument forward, which of these you have in mind?
我们要问问自己当苏格拉底,提出自己论点的时候，他脑中的是这三个中的哪一个？
And so sometimes we'll find ourselves thinking, "You know, there's an argument here that Socrates is putting forward."
所以有时候我们会这样想，看，这里有一个论证，是由苏格拉底提出的。
But even if they are good criticisms, I want to say that's not good enough to help you argument, Socrates.
但即使是好的，我想说，苏格拉底，那也不足以帮你论证。
It's a very powerful argument that, in a way, Socrates makes against himself, putting that speech in the mouth of the laws.
这是很有力的申论，在某种程度上，苏格拉底自我违抗，转而以法律的立场说话。
So if what Socrates means by invisibility is the first notion: can't be seen with your eyes, then the argument is not any good, harmony is a pretty compelling counterexample.
所以如果苏格拉底说的无形，是第一个意思：，眼睛看不见，这个论证就不好，和声是个很有说服力的反例。
Socrates says, "No. On the contrary, we do have reason, based on the argument from recollection, to conclude that the soul was around before we were born."
苏格拉底说，不对，恰恰相反，基于回忆论，我们有理由去说，灵魂存在于我们出生之前。
As I say though, Plato may well recognize the inadequacy of that argument, because after all Socrates goes on to offer a series of other arguments.
柏拉图本身，可能已经认识到这个观点站不住脚，因为苏格拉底，还提供了一系列其他的观点。
But Plato's Socrates is necessarily poles apart from Aristophanes' Socrates depiction of him as a sort of sophist who makes the weaker argument the stronger.
但柏拉图的苏格拉底必然不同于，亚里斯·多芬尼斯对苏格拉底的描述，后者将他描写成是，让虚弱申辩转强的诡辩家。
We know Socrates chiefly through what Plato recorded of him in his famous Dialogues. The method of argument Socrates used in exposing fallacies has come to be known as dialectical method.
我们主要是通过柏拉图的《对话录》来了解关于苏格拉底的思想，苏格拉底用在揭露歪理和错误观点的方法称为辩证的方法。
We know Socrates chiefly through what Plato recorded of him in his famous Dialogues. The method of argument Socrates used in exposing fallacies has come to be known as dialectical method.
我们主要是通过柏拉图的《对话录》来了解关于苏格拉底的思想，苏格拉底用在揭露歪理和错误观点的方法称为辩证的方法。
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