And so sometimes we'll find ourselves thinking, "You know, there's an argument here that Socrates is putting forward."

所以有时候我们会这样想，看，这里有一个论证，是由苏格拉底提出的。

youdao

But even if they are good criticisms, I want to say that's not good enough to help you argument, Socrates.

但即使是好的，我想说，苏格拉底，那也不足以帮你论证。

youdao

It's a very powerful argument that, in a way, Socrates makes against himself, putting that speech in the mouth of the laws.

这是很有力的申论，在某种程度上，苏格拉底自我违抗，转而以法律的立场说话。

youdao

But even if they are good criticisms, I want to say that's not good enough to help you argument, Socrates.

但即使是好的，我想说，苏格拉底,那也不足以帮你论证。

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All that Simmias needs to cause problems for Socrates' argument is the claim that harmony is invisible and harmony can be destroyed.

西米亚斯为苏格拉底的论证,带来问题的只需要是,和声是无形的,但是可以毁灭。

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Socrates wins the argument in Book I with a kind of, you might even say, sleight of hand.

苏格拉底赢得了第一册的辩论,你可能会说，这个作法是花招。

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