If justice equals self-interest and self-interest requires knowledge, ? well what kind of knowledge is that?

如果正义等于私利,且私利需要知识，则那是一种什么样的知识？

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The Hobbesian state was intended to secure the conditions of life, even a highly civilized and cultivated life but one calculated in terms of self-interest and risk avoidance.

霍布斯眼中的国家旨在,保护人民的生命财产安全,即使是那些虽开化有教养却是为一己私利的人,也应当受到国家的保护。

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Justice, like all knowledge, is really a form, again, of self-interest.

正义，一如所有知识，其实是一种私利的形式。

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