A very good example of that is what I've been telling you; that's really what happens. And here's another thing, if you go to the end of the Greek story, when you think about political theory, there's Plato.

我刚刚讲的就是一个很好的例子,确有其事,还有另外一个例子,当我们走到希腊神话描述的那个时代的尽头,当你思考政治学说时,柏拉图会给予你启示

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Having learned, or having agreed, let's say, with my prejudice, which is that the Higher Naivete must reign -and if the Greeks said it happened, you got to believe it happened, until you have to believe that it didn't happen.

以我的成见,他已经达到或认同,"高级天真",如果古希腊人说确有其事,你要相信它确实发生,除非你不得不相信它其实并未发生过

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