So that at least,they claimed for some that through these texts that they wanted apostolic authorship or close to apostolic authorship.
所以至少有些人认为,这些书需要是使徒所著,或者亲近使徒的人所著。
When demons are cast out by the apostles and sent into a herd of pigs, and the pigs go running off a cliff and die; that's one image.
第一个是魔鬼们被使徒们赶出了天界,赶到了一群猪的中间,然后那些猪就跑向了悬崖,摔死在了那里。
So if that was the reason they were included in the ancient world,it's not the reason they're still in now, because modern scholars don't believe the apostles actually wrote all of these texts in the New Testament.
如果那就是它们在古代被选上的原因,它不是现代人所认为的原因,因为现代学者认为,新约里的书并非全为使徒所写。
It's not the acts of all the apostles, it's the acts basically of Paul,and Paul's not considered an apostle by the guy who wrote the Acts of the Apostles.
它并不是所有使徒的传记,而是保罗的,但使徒行传的作者认为,保罗并不是使徒。
Nor do we believe they were written even by the close disciples of apostles. They're anonymous texts.
我们认为它们也不是由使徒的,亲密信徒所写,它们是匿名发表的。
Marcion believed that Paul had been the only one of the different apostles who got it right.
马吉安觉得保罗是所有使徒中,唯一明白真理的人。
So Marcion said,"Aha. The other Jewish apostles, the bad apostles,got hold of Paul's letters.
马吉安说“看,另一个犹太教使徒,另一个坏使徒拿到了保罗的书信。
In other words,you believed something was apostolic if it taught stuff you believed.
换句话说,你会相信某本书是某使徒所写,如果它说的东西是你所相信的话。
But he tries to find people who are old men, who knew the apostles.
但是他尝试找到那些长者,那些认识使徒的老人。
If it's not necessarily apostleship,and it's not inspiration, what are the real reasons?
如果它不一定与使徒职分有关,与神启性无关,那真正的原因是什么?
Like I said, they wanted them to be traced back to the apostles.
就像我所说的,作者希望人们认为它是使徒所写。
And we also realize that The Acts of the Apostles is mistitled.
我们还发现使徒行传的标题是错误的。
Because Paul was Marcion's fave,fave apostle.
因为保罗是马吉安最喜欢的使徒。
And this is the way The Acts of Apostles begins.
这就是使徒行传的开头。
Apostolic authorship was one thing they talk about.
使徒著述才是他们的考虑标准。
He mentions "the memoirs of the apostles."
他提到了“使徒的回忆录“
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