But now Righty's a person without a soul,because we just hypothesized, oh,Shelly Kagan's soul's up there.

但现在小右是个没有没有灵魂的人，因为我们猜测Shelly，Kagan的灵魂在别处。

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Some fact about us that calls out for explanation, and the claim on the part of the dualists was, we couldn't explain it without appealing to a soul.

有些关于我们的事实需要解释,而二元论者的主张是,如果不诉诸灵魂,我们就无法解释这些

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