If that's true, it's true, again, what's being sold in markets, in many cases information products information services.

那样，同样地，市场中的商品，许多时候是,信息产品,信息服务。

麻省理工公开课 - 媒体、教育、市场课程节选

Now we're doing the same for IT, using standards, taking things that are in what's this big bucket known as services and really encapsulating them in the form of services and products, but in a much more cost-effective way, using standards.

现在对于整个信息技术行业我们也采取这种方法，使用标准,通过服务,注入产品和服务，通过标准，提高成本效率。

斯坦福公开课 - 戴尔CEO-Michael.Dell谈创业和发展课程节选