And perhaps that is pastoral in a way, going back to what you said, that I do think of myself in many ways as doing pastoral counseling, particularly in the most difficult circumstances when there's been a crisis, a death, a serious accident.

也许某种意义上这像是种牧师与受众，回到你刚才说的，很多时候我觉得自己,就是作为一个牧师指导学生，尤其是在极其困难的情况下,比如出现了危机，伤亡，或者严重事故。

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