It's kind of unsettling because we like to know what things are, but at the same time it's not really a big problem because as long as we know about the fact that a certain notion of literature exists in certain communities we can begin to do very interesting work precisely with that idea.

可能会有点让人不安，因为我们总想知道事物的定义，但知不知道,实际上问题不大,只要我们知道在特定群体中对文学有特定的认识,我们就能在这种认识上做文章。

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Now we're doing the same for IT, using standards, taking things that are in what's this big bucket known as services and really encapsulating them in the form of services and products, but in a much more cost-effective way, using standards.

现在对于整个信息技术行业我们也采取这种方法，使用标准,通过服务,注入产品和服务，通过标准，提高成本效率。

斯坦福公开课 - 戴尔CEO-Michael.Dell谈创业和发展课程节选