Let me say more about what I mean by approaching the question of his modernness, his modernity, from the point of view of his subjects.

让我解释一下我的意思,通过探寻他现代性的问题，从他的主题方面入手。

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And his big finding is that you could separate people-- you could separate the question of laughter from the question of a joke or the question of humor.

他有一个重大的发现,你可以区分…,你可以区分什么是笑,什么是玩笑，什么是幽默。

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