I love reading these particular stories, and just hearing the dialogue between them, and imagining it, because the two of them alternate in losing patience with the Israelites, and wishing to throw them over.

我喜欢读这些特别的故事，读他们之间的对话，想象那个场景，因为他们两个轮流对犹太人,失去耐心，想放弃他们。

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And in the Apology, the speech between Socrates and the laws that form, as it were the kind of central action of the dialogue, Anytus presents the case that Meletus and Anytus should have made against him.

则在《自辩篇》中,苏格拉底与城邦的法律，这几乎是语录的中心诉讼点，呈现的便是，Meletus及,应拿来对付他的论点。

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