"Some of these inventors have been designers of the human genome sequencer, incredible technologies around focusing sound in the same way have been able to focus light with lasers, health technologies like the stair-climbing wheelchair and a portable dialysis machine,".

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So for an example, he argued that the prison system needs to be reformed because instead of focusing on notions of justice and retribution what we should do is focus instead on questions of reinforcing good behaviors and punishing bad ones.

举个例子，他认为监狱体系需要改革,因为人们不应关注公正与赎罪,而应当去关注对良好行为的强化,以及对不良行为的惩罚。

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