"Yeah,very sad. Just very surprised , sort of thing we have gone through, a lot of people that have been here, sort of last evening,so yeah, very sad," said one fan.

VOA: standard.2009.06.26

I think the Morning Star, Evening Star case shows us that arguments like this, at the very least, can't be taken at face value.

晨星和昏星的例子,向我们表明了,像这样的论证,一般来说,不能轻信

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