In order for a more or less round plate to remind me of roundness, Plato says, I have to have already met perfect roundness itself.

如果一个或多或少,有点圆的盘子能让我想到正圆,柏拉图认为,我必须已经见过完美的圆本身了

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The mind can think about them, but justice itself--this perfect, this idea of being perfectly just-- that's something the mind can think about, but it's not here in the world.

心灵可以去设想它们,但是正义本身,即完美的正义这个理念,它是可以用心灵去把握的,尽管在现实世界里不存在

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In order for a more or less just society to remind me of justice itself, so that I can start thinking about the nature of justice itself, I have to somehow have already been acquainted with perfect justice.

如果一个较为正义的社会,能让我想到公正本身,能让我思考公正的本质,我起码需要,对完美的正义有所认识

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