But a lot of people can't." Marcus Martin admits he made mistakes, but he says his time in prison actually made him a better citizen.

VOA: standard.2010.03.25

But you're absolutely right, that's the key point and that then answers, Marcus, what's the texture.

但你无疑是对的,这是关键点,然后你回答,马库斯,织体是什么

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.. All right. Good. Now I want to hear - so there are some who think it's morally permissible but only about 20%, led by Marcus.

很好，我现在想听的是-,现在有人认为这行为是道德上允许的,但只有20%的人，以马库斯为代表。

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