And that's something that you have to be willing to put up with."

VOA: special.2009.05.18

"Anyone can always come up with a project that you have to kill an animal to measure something,".

VOA: standard.2010.01.05

But just the fact that the idea came up, that we know that there are people out there thinking about this, seemed to be something that people want to talk about,".

VOA: standard.2009.12.18

"What's new is that we can actually do something to help the victims, and rather than what happened before was they may end up being prosecuted and criminalized themselves, that now it's recognized that they're victims."

VOA: standard.2010.07.23