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So magic in a pagan system, Kaufman claims, is a way of getting around the gods, circumventing the capricious will of the gods and demons.
考夫曼宣称，异教系统中的法术，可以用来应付众神,能使反复无常的神谕和恶魔的诅咒失灵。
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These people knew more than anybody else about these things, and so consulting that oracle was a very rational act indeed.
这里的人比别地的人知道得多,所以请示神谕,实际上是有一定道理的
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The Delphic Oracle is interpreted by Socrates at least to command engaging with others in philosophical conversation.
苏格拉底如此解译德尔菲神谕,至少是为了要能够,和其它人进行哲学对话。
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The will of any one god can be thwarted by perhaps another god.
某一条神谕可能会受到另一个神的反对。
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The answer would come back and the priests would give a response that would be essentially straight.
神谕会带来答案,而祭司也会传达出尽量直白的回答
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He didn't believe it and in order to disprove the Oracle's statement he says he began a lifelong quest to find someone wiser than himself.
他不相信,且为了加以反驳神谕论述,他说自己开始了一趟终身的找寻,要找出一位比自己聪明的人。
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Socrates tells us that when he was told this he expressed disbelief in the Oracle.
苏格拉底告诉我们，当他听到这个消息时,他表示不相信神谕。
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In other words, people spent a lot of money to consult the oracle.
换句话说,人们花很多钱来请示神谕
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The Delphic story for what it's worth marks a major turning point in Socrates' intellectual biography.
德尔菲神谕事件，不论好坏,都标志着,一个苏格拉底思想传记中的重要转折点。
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Well okay, the point is the oracle was wrong. No, of course not.
但是重点是神谕错了吗,当然不是
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They tell you precisely what the gases were, what the characteristics of those gases were, and it squared beautifully with all details that we heard about the Delphic Oracle.
他们会准确地告诉你,此为何种气体,以及该气体有何特性,而且它与我们所知的德尔菲神谕的,所有细节都相符合
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Well now, before we go any further-- in your Herodotus readings and elsewhere, you will come across many a story in which an oracle is consulted and gives an answer.
现在,在我们深入这个问题之前,当你们阅读希罗多德或其他作品时,里面有大量的故事,都跟某些请示神谕,寻求答案有关
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Now, ask yourself this, especially if you're talking about Greeks, are they going to keep shelling out money for an oracle that gives them answers that turn out to be wrong? No.
现在想想这个,尤其说到古希腊人,为了得到神谕,他们会不停地破费,而这些神谕最后还是错的吗,当然不会
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The poets are oracular right?
诗人总喜好借助神谕，不是吗？
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There can therefore, be no notion of a supreme divine will, an absolute or sovereign divine will. The will of any one god ultimately can be countered by the decrees of the primordial realm and the will of all the gods can be thwarted by the decrees of the primordial realm.
世上将不会再有至高的神谕，任何一个神谕最终将会被,这个原始领域的法令所驳回,所有的神谕都会遭到反对。
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Now, you can bet when these folks came and consulted the priest and could you please put us down on the list, we want to consult the oracle, the priest said sure have a beer, let's talk about your hometown, what's going on out there.
你能想到,当人们到此请示神谕,会对祭司说,您能把我们的名字写在表里吗,我们想询问神谕,祭司说有啤酒就行,我们先说说你的家乡,那儿发生了什么事
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He said, "If I cross the Halys River, that's the boundary between Lydia and Persia, what will happen?" The oracle replied, "A great empire will be destroyed," And Croesus said, "Terrific that's what I have in mind."
如果我跨过了哈吕斯河,那是吕底亚和波斯的分界线,会有什么后果,神谕回答说,一个伟大的帝国将被摧毁,于是克洛伊索斯说,太棒了,正如我愿
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But he didn't think of it; other times all kinds of funny stories are told about the oracle, which would suggest that it wasn't really a very reliable source of information, that it was filled with mythology and so on and so forth.
但是他并没有想到这点,还有很多关于神谕有趣的故事,都能够暗示出,神谕并不是一个非常可靠的信息来源,它充满了神话色彩或其他因素
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We know for sure Greeks and barbarians, and everybody came to Delphi, and when you came to Delphi and you were going to consult the it was hard, there were a lot of people, a long line, so there was a waiting issue.
我们可以肯定希腊人和蛮族人,都去了特尔斐,当人们到了特尔斐时,就会去请示神谕,这事情很难做,因为人非常多,会有很长的队伍,因此等待是个大问题
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Okay, now suppose you are the Oikistes, you've gotten the permission from your city to go forward, and you go to the Delphic Oracle and the Delphic Oracle says fine, by all means, go where you want to go.
好吧,现在假设,你被选为Oikistes,即被选出来建设城邦新殖民地的首领 你得到了向前行进的许可,然后你去了特尔斐神示所,神谕说一切顺利,这意味着,你想去哪都可以
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He recalls the story don't you remember of a man named Charephon a friend of his who had gone to the Delphic Oracle who had gone to Oracle of Delphi and asked if there was anyone wiser than Socrates and was told there was not.
他回忆起那个故事，你们记得吗,关于一位名为Charephon的朋友,他前去请示阿波罗神谕,即德尔菲神谕,是否有人比苏格拉底聪明,得到的结果是没有。
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