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Milton wants to write an epic that in some ways comes before, or prevents, the great epics of Homer and Virgil.
弥尔顿想写一首在某种程度上先于，荷马和维吉尔伟大史诗的史诗。
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Now in these two books we've seen Milton dig up and discard just about the entire tradition of epic poetry.
现在在我们看到的两册书中弥尔顿,挖出并丢弃了所有史诗的传统。
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And of course, the kings when we see them in Homer do not have a bureaucracy, do not have scribes.
当然,从《荷马史诗》中所看到的那些国王,他们没有官僚作风,没有随身抄写员
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So, this unfolding of the plot and the epic story has been very, very interesting to watch, especially if you look back to that time when he came back to the company.
苹果的情节展开,和史诗般的叙事，都非常有趣，特别是回首他刚回公司的时候,这两点更为有趣。
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This is an analogy as old as, and found in, Homer.
这是在荷马史诗中就发现的类比。
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I think, a collection of epic poems written in Sanskrit that goes back-- it was actually written over a course of 1,000 years and it was completed in the fourth century.
这是本用梵文编著的史诗作品集,可以追溯到...,事实上这本作品的创作时间历时近千年,最终完稿于公元四世纪
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I don't know that I have an answer to this, but perhaps the Republic as a whole is itself a piece of this Socratic poetry that will substitute for the Homeric kind.
我不确定我对这有预备答案，但也许整部《理想国》,就是一部苏老式的诗学,用以取代荷马史诗。
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Milton wrote his epic in lines of unrhymed iambic pentameter or what we call, and what Milton would have called, blank verse.
弥尔顿的史诗由不押韵的抑扬格五音步诗句写成,我们，还有弥尔顿都称其为无韵诗。
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They have a substantial reality within the fictional context, the mimetic context, of this epic. These are angels.
他们在这篇史诗虚构的模仿得来的，内容中具有极大的现实意义，他们是天使。
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But Milton's also sensitive to the fact that the very phrase "Christian epic" is in some way a contradiction in terms.
但弥尔顿对有些事实也很敏锐,某种意义上“基督教史诗“这个词语,本身就是矛盾的。
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Well, let me turn to another aspect of the story of Homer and how the poems play into Greek society.
接着让我们转向荷马史诗的另一方面,看看诗歌是如何融入希腊社会的
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The word polis appears in Homer, but it means something different from what it means throughout most of Greek history.
城邦"这个词首先出现在荷马史诗,但是它在这里的意思,与在希腊历史中的意思不同
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But we quickly see that the people referred to as Basileus in Homer are not like the great King of Persia.
但回溯一下那些在《荷马史诗》中被称为,巴赛勒斯的人,却并不像波斯王那样强大
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Now it's still going to be another twenty-five years before Milton writes the great epic, but Milton will no longer express the same degree of anxiety about under-preparation to write the great epic.
距他成为真正的史诗诗人,还有25年，但是弥尔顿不会再轻易表现出,关于创作史诗毫无准备的同等的焦虑了。
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Milton's would be an epic demonstrating the origins and ; the heroic achievement of his own nation, England; or maybe he'd be thinking a little broadly of Britain, which is England, Scotland and Wales.
这首史诗应该展示弥尔顿自己的祖国,英格兰的起源以及辉煌成就;,他想的范围可能更大一点，大不列颠，大不列颠包括英格兰，苏格兰和威尔士。
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They had even obtained, with the help of the attendant spirit, Haemony the magical herb Haemony with all of its Homeric associations, but this, too, seemed inadequate to the task of rescuing their sister.
他们甚至在随从的帮助下拿到了，有所有荷马史诗联系的神奇的草药，但是看来这些对于解救妹妹的任务来说都是不够充足的。
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Well, Homer has his heroes using chariots and we know that chariots were used in warfare in the Bronze Age around the Mediterranean Sea.
荷马史诗》的主角们所使用的战车,我们知道在青铜时代的地中海地区,二轮战车被广泛运用于战争
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Now we have the trappings here of epic grandeur and epic subject matter.
现在我们知道了史诗的雄壮还有主题很重要。
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The appearance of this semi-epic rhyme scheme here at the end of Milton's poem suggests his readiness, and he's ready only here at the end of Lycidas to embark on the epic project.
弥尔顿诗篇的最后处半史诗韵律的设计,显示了他已准备就绪，他在的结尾处依然准备好了,在史诗的创作上留下自己的印迹。
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He was long in choosing the subject of his heroic song and, as we know from all of -- and we've encountered a number of them - all of those protestations of delay Milton began his epic late.
他久久未能确定他要写的英雄之歌的主题，这我们从从弥尔顿多次声言,自己的史诗动笔很晚就能看出。
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We will hear again of Milton's intention to write an epic in a versified letter that he writes to his best friend, Charles Diodati. This is the letter to Diodati which Milton publishes as the Sixth Elegy.
我们又一次听到弥尔顿想写史诗,是在他给最好的朋友查尔斯，迪奥达蒂的一封信里，这就是那封信,弥尔顿以第六挽歌的名字出版。
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Virgil would go on to be a great epic poet but not until after he had written these pastoral eclogues and then after that, after he had written the georgic poems, only then does he write finally the great epic poem The Aeneid.
他会成为一个伟大的史诗家,但这一直到他写出这些抒情诗之后,在那之后，在他完成了那些田园诗篇之后，直到那时他才最终完成了史诗。
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That's the idea of the game, and then Parry demonstrated by careful scholarship of the Homeric poems, that that is the way the Homeric poems were.
他们从游历中获取灵感,之后帕里通过严谨的学术论证证明了,这就是《荷马史诗》的创作方式
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Whoever was writing the poems of Homer, whichever poets were contributing to that over the ages after the Mycenaean Period, they hadn't seen those Mycenaean sites.
不管是谁写的《荷马史诗》,无论那些诗人在迈锡尼文明之后,为该作品作出了多大贡献,他们都没见过迈锡尼文明遗址
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The Iliad,which is about a war, immediately is a kind of an artificial society put together for the purpose of defeating the Trojans and taking their city.
伊利亚特 》,作为描述战争的史诗,直接就是一个集合的虚构社会,目的是为了击败特洛伊人并占有他们的城邦
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There are also differences, sometimes, in the shape of weapons that we find in the Greek World after the Mycenaean Period compared to what are described in Homer's poems.
在武器的设计上有时也有差异,处于后迈锡尼文明的希腊所发现的,武器和《荷马史诗》的描述是不同的
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Milton began his epic poem late.
弥尔顿的史诗写晚了。
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The epic form is a classical, pagan form.
史诗是一种古典的，无宗教信仰的形式。
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Merritt Hughes usefully notes this in one of the notes at the bottom of the page, that Milton in that line, "things unattempted yet in Prose or Rhyme," Milton's actually alluding to the opening of another romance epic.
梅里特修斯发现,在这页最下面有一条笔记，显示弥尔顿写到，“在《散文和韵律》中都未被人们尝试过的事“,事实上弥尔顿是暗指另一部浪漫史诗的开头。
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