And where will people come from that, if they all follow the psychology of fear and ? self-interest that Hobbes wants to instill in us?

如果都按霍布斯灌输给我们的那样想，时刻保持着恐惧和利己的心态,那又从哪招募那些消防员，警察和军人呢？

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But we are also strongly self-interested beings.

但同时我们也是极其利己的生物。

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Well after that, the bond price went up because people saw that as a sign that the company was tightening its belt and doing things right to have money to pay off the bondholders; so it was self-interested, I suppose--maybe you can ask him about this.

在这之后,债券的价格升高了,因为人们认为降低红利是一个信号,说明公司开始紧缩开支走向正轨,并且去偿付债券持有人,莱德利夫通过这种做法达到利己的目的,我想你们可以就此事向莱德利夫提问

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