When Grant replied, "You found him!"

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You should know that Ilan found your interest in him laughable, and that his real talent was for convincing people that he was smarter than he was.

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Empirically the way you get a product visionary as CEO is for him to found the company and not get fired.

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But I found that it was his ability to scale intimacy that makes him unique whether you are watching him live or on television.

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