But Lord Thomas of Gresford spoke against the "otiose and unnecessary" amendment and defended the government's plans.
Liberal Democrat Lord Thomas of Gresford wanted the government to consider at what level legal aid could be granted.
Liberal Democrat peer Lord Thomas of Gresford claims the "very clumsy mechanism" will draw the attention of the constitutional lawyers on the red benches.
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In seeking to legislate on the matter, Lib Dem peer Lord Thomas of Gresford said ministers were refusing to "trust the good common sense of a British jury".
Lady Randerson was supported by fellow Liberal Democrat peer Lord Thomas of Gresford, who told peers that "everyone agrees that the Barnett formula is inequitable - even Lord Barnett".
Liberal Democrat peer Lord Thomas of Gresford, president of the Lloyd George Society, read extracts from Lloyd George's speeches and from Winston Churchill's tribute delivered to the House of Commons on Lloyd George's death in 1945.
Liberal Democrat Lord Thomas of Gresford offered a different perspective, saying that the law should remain as it is and that people have to trust in the ability of judges and juries to assess individual cases as they arise.
Opening a debate on reforming the criminal justice system on 15 July 2010, Lib Dem peer Lord Thomas of Gresford said the proposals offered hope of a "progressive and a radical reform of penal policy" which will "help both the victim and the offender".
Yesterday's public spat between Plaid AMs Simon Thomas and Lord Elis-Thomas in the chamber over the appointment of the Counsel General was ugly, and Jocelyn Davies' stumble into Carwyn Jones' big clunking fist at FMQs even uglier.
Lord Justice Thomas ruled the papers put before the justice secretary for him to make his decision "did not put a balanced case".
Speaking on behalf of the judiciary in England and Wales, Lord Justice Thomas said it was important to put the figures in context.
In the latest legal battle, Tim Owen QC, appearing for Hindawi, told Lord Justice Thomas and Mrs Justice Nicola Davies that the justice secretary had been "implacably opposed" to Hindawi's release throughout the parole process.
But Lord Elis-Thomas was presiding at a graduation ceremony in Bangor University while the vote took place.
Lord Elis-Thomas, Elin Jones and Leanne Wood will attend a final campaign hustings in Neath on Thursday evening.
Lord Elis-Thomas is the assembly's former presiding officer, fulfilling the role for the first 12 years of devolution.
Lord Elis-Thomas made the comment in Welsh "ffasgwyr iaith" (language fascists) when they refused to allow her to continue.
Giving evidence on this were Lord Dafydd Elis Thomas AM and Claire Clancy, Chief Executive and Clerk of the Assembly.
But having ticked off Mr Davies, Lord Elis-Thomas found that he did not know how Assembly members should be addressed himself.
The number of assembly members should be increased to 80, according to Lord Elis-Thomas, who is the AM for Dwyfor Meirionnydd.
Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood has refused to comment on how she will deal with Lord Elis-Thomas's defiance of the party.
On the BBC Radio Wales Phone In, First Minister Carwyn Jones was asked whether he would welcome Lord Elis-Thomas to his party.
Before Lord Elis-Thomas releases his official archive, I should point out that the would-be author is the Conservative MP for Monmouth, David Davies.
Lord Elis-Thomas told the BBC's Politics Show Wales that he believed the three elections on a so-called "super Thursday" would appeal to voters.
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Lord Elis-Thomas' comment was made in a public meeting after some members of the audience booed a speaker who addressed the meeting in English.
Lord Elis-Thomas, who has twice led the party, stayed away from a vote of no-confidence in Health Minister Lesley Griffiths in the Senedd on Wednesday.
Once he's finished Lord Elis-Thomas's biography, Mr Davies might then be able to contemplate a career change, should Matt Smith ever hang up his sonic screwdriver.
In an interview for BBC Wales' Dragon's Eye, Lord Elis-Thomas praised Prince Charles as "Cymrophile" but said "all constitutional conventions require a bit of refurbishment and re-examination".
The 12 members of the task-and-finish group, who include Hay Festival director Peter Florence, Lord Elis-Thomas AM and BBC broadcaster Roy Noble, are looking at nine topics.
Ceredigion AM Elin Jones has confirmed she will stand for the leadership and Lord Elis-Thomas, who led the party 20 years ago, has said he intends to be among the candidates.
Ms Wood, who beat Lord Elis-Thomas in this year's Plaid leadership election, repeatedly declined to answer questions about him while launching a party report into the economy on Thursday.
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