Although it is early days, neither man seems to have grasped quite how bad things are.
Even these dramatic numbers may understate how bad the situation is for the Republicans.
We can only guess how bad the trend is going to be by November.
However, Dune set a new bar for how bad an upscale restaurant could be.
The hardcore people always find their way to the mountains, no matter how bad the year.
"It just shows how bad things look for equipment demand in general, " Twigg said.
When you find yourself emotionally circling the drain, don't deny how bad you feel, Wolkstein adds.
Just run through the year Justin - how bad has it been and why?
And later, it followed that up with another indication of how bad things were getting.
It took a situation like that for me to realise how bad I got myself.
So, how bad was losing the vote this week on the Gurkha resettlement issue?
The question is what that shoe is going to be, and how bad it's going to be.
"We knew they were in financial difficulties but we didn't know how bad it was, " he said.
The result is that the only debate on the right now is how bad will it be.
If you wait till you know how bad it is, it becomes harder to change the outcome.
When people at home heard about the crash no-one could tell them at first how bad it was.
In fact the Financial Times was briefed on just how bad the budget deficit is likely to be.
"I was surprised at how bad England were, " said Cameron Smith, whose side hammered England 52-4 in Melbourne.
The insolvency body said this was an "alarming indication of just how bad the economy continues to perform".
Going back to our water analogy, aspiration or how bad we want something provides the pressure that produces attention.
The 99% seem to have little comprehension of just how bad things might have got for them without it.
Then all the discussion is focused on whether it is over or not and how bad it might get.
You need only look at the relationship between Apple and Adobe to see how bad it can get.
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We will carry on with a spirit that says no matter how bad a storm is, we come back.
How bad does it have to get before you get treatment, and for that matter, what is the treatment?
In effect, Mr Zapatero got back before voters realised how bad things were.
That could change: no one knows how long the crisis will linger, or how bad the damage will be.
The election of 1932 was another example of an election decided largely because of how bad the times were.
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So talk us through just how bad you think, how worried you are about the economy, first of all.
But few appreciate how bad the problem is, or that it is rising.
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