So they've got a lot of-- Will Goetzmann and Geert Rouwenhorst are collectors of old bonds and they've got lots of bonds with their coupons still attached.
他们那有很多,威尔·杰茨曼和吉尔特·陆文霍斯特,是旧债券的收藏家,他们收集了许多,还贴有息票的债券
Some private collectors, so people who've gone away on trips
一些是私人收藏家,那么一些人去国外旅游,
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