I believe the attempts to establish the existence of a soul, an immaterial object, the house of consciousness separate and distinct from the body, I think those arguments fail.

我认为,无论是试图证明,灵魂作为一种非物质的东西,而存在,还是证明心灵,这个意识的处所,独立于肉体,我认为这些论证都不成立

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It won't surprise you when Plato looks for an example of something that is eternal and indestructible his mind immedialately starts thinking about the 3 platonic forms. Take the number 3.

当柏拉图寻求,某种永恒，不可毁灭的东西,作为证明例子的时候,你可能不会觉得奇怪他马上想到了,柏拉图形式，比如说数字。

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