设计师詹妮弗·安德森承认，她花了一段时间才改变她的观点，即在她的作品中使用海狸鼠的皮毛是合乎道义的。

Designer Jennifer Anderson admits it took her a while to come around to the opinion that using nutria fur for her creations is morally acceptable.

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几十年来，毛皮贸易一直控制着海狸鼠的数量，但在20世纪80年代末，海狸鼠毛制品市场崩溃，导致这种猫大小的动物的数量疯涨。

The fur trade kept nutria in check for decades, but when the market for nutria collapsed in the late 1980s, the cat-sized animals multiplied like crazy.

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我告诉她橡皮鼠的事。她说：“这是‘吱吱叫先生'吗？”

I tell her about the rubber mouse. She says, "Is this Mr Squeaky?"

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But over a lifetime, I think I would think almost a complete majority here would agree that they would rather be a human with higher pleasure than be that rat with intense pleasure for a momentary period of time.

但是就一生而言,我觉得，在场绝大部分人都会同意,他们更愿意做拥有更高级快乐的人,而不是只图一时快乐，做那只享受一时快感的鼠。

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