因此，盖茨事后坦率地承认，“我们基本上就是说，‘嘿，我们也看好图形界面，我们也见识过施乐Alto啊。’”

As he freely admitted later, "We sort of say, 'hey, we believe in graphics interfaces, we saw the Xerox Alto, too'."

youdao

Penny pinching的意思啊，就是说一个人特别小气，不愿意花钱。

If you say someone is penny-pinching, you mean that they don't want to spend money on things.

youdao

就是说，“神啊，我太爱你了，我要回报你。”

It's saying, "God, I love You so much I want to give back to You."

youdao