And you see this, going back to Socrates, there's a dialogue, the Gorgias, in which one of Socrates' friends, Callicles, tries to talk him out of philosophizing.
追溯到苏格拉底时代,就有这样一段对话,在《高尔吉亚篇》中,苏格拉底的一位朋友,卡里克利斯,试图说服苏格拉底放弃哲学思考。
Take my advice," Callicles says, "abandon argument.
听我劝吧,卡里克利斯说,收起你的辩论。
And Callicles did have a point.
卡里克利斯说得确有道理。
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