《国家报》记者卡洛斯说：“与他一起工作的人经常不明白他想要什么。”
"People who work with him often don't understand what he wants," says Carlos, a correspondent for El País.
卡洛斯说他想留下来。
卡洛斯说：她是我们每个人最伟大的妈妈。所以我赶去加入(葬礼)队伍。
Carlos: She was the biggest mama of each of us, so we are going to pick up the procession.
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