彭茨勒问我：“你有没有掀起一块石头看到下面有鼻涕虫、马陆等丑陋的动物爬出来？”

"Have you ever lifted up a rock and seen slugs and millipedes and other ugly creatures come out?" Penzler asked me.

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但这也许正是艾伦确定不让伦勒·柯布西耶出现在吉尔·彭德所见艺术人物之中的原因。

But maybe that's why Allen made sure that le Corbusier wasn't among the artistic figures from the twenties whom Gil Pender meets.

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上个月，我咨询了彭茨勒期望他能对黑色文学解惑释疑，他是作家兼编辑，还是富有传奇色彩的“神秘书屋”的老板。

Last month, I asked Penzler—a writer, editor, and owner of the legendary Mysterious Bookshop in New York—to shed some light on noir.

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