杰夫：不是据说，是真的。
不是据说卡乐门在几百、几千里之外，在世界的尽头，跟这儿还隔着一个大沙漠吗。
And they do say that Calormen is hundreds and thousands of miles away, right at the world's end, across a great sea of sand.
正式谈判据说仍有可能，但不是很可能。
Formal talks are still said to be a possibility, not a probability.
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