Either or both could be true or false without affecting the truth or falsity of the other.

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Without the aid of truth, I am nothing, and I can never be anything.

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Unbound by the sorts of laws that restrain private managers from making unsubstantiated, and unverifiable, claims, public pensions are prone to say whatever makes their investment decision-making look more solid--without regard to the truth.

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