Embiid also needs to learn how to defend without fouling and how to take care of the ball.

恩比德还需要学会如何在避免犯规的情况下防守，还得好好学学如何护球。

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As it turns out, Butler's vice is actually a virtue: The team has a well-deserved reputation for knowing how to foul without fouling.

WSJ: Butler: The School of Hard Blocks

But hope springs eternal, and the politicians and pressure groups and no small number of corporate participants have shown up to discuss how to get people out of poverty without fouling the environment.

FORBES: Talk isn't cheap