But den Hartog, the urban planner, is not so sure: "the infrastructure is there-parks, lakes, but no houses."

但是den Hartog，城市计划参与者并不确定：“那些基础设施都在那里，湖啊，公园啊，就是没有房子。”

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Yu Zhen, 33, chief human resources officer and one of the co-founders, was then working at Chongqing University as an urban planner.

余振，33岁，人力资源总监以及联合创始人之一，当时是重庆大学的一名城市规划师。

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"The needs of Cairo should be met by the existing eight new towns around it," says David Sims, an urban planner and author based in the Cairo.

居住在开罗的城市规划师兼作家大卫·西姆斯说：“开罗周边现有的八个新城镇本就能满足其需求。”

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Robin Boyle, an urban planner at Wayne State University, has studied the situation for years.

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