Laotse replied, "Men like this can only be regarded as a duteous civil servant or a competent technician. We can't say that they are sage Kings or good leaders."
老子回答：“这样的人我们只能说他是一位尽职的公务员，一位有能力的技术人员，他们还算不上是明王，也算不上是好的领导人。”
" The Scribe replied:" My ancestor, when performing divination for Sage Emperor Shun obtained a comparable indications. And Emperor Shun then found Yao Tao to assist him.
史编说：“我的远祖史畴曾为舜占卜而得到皋陶，那时的预兆和今天的很相似。”
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