This has been going on for many decades, but basically what we're looking for is funding for the poor and small and medium enterprises in order to be able to create a better economic situation in El Salvador.
"Where we need to get to, to grow the economy, is the bit in between individual poor entrepreneurs and larger businesses, which are small and medium-term enterprises, and that's what needs to be supported, " he argues.
For social enterprises to scale their delivery of essential goods and services to the poor, they need access to working capital, and they need fair wages.