Historian Sheilagh Ogilvie challenges the view that training by European craft guilds from 1560 to 1760 was necessary.

欧洲工艺行会从1560年到1760年间的训练是必要的，对于这一观点，历史学家希拉赫·奥格尔维提出了质疑。

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Wildberg master-widows were not untrained for, as Ogilvie notes elsewhere, wives and children worked with masters, their training may have been informal, but it existed nevertheless.

怀尔德伯格主妇并非没有受过训练，因为正如欧吉维在其他地方指出的那样，妻子和孩子与主人一起工作，他们的训练可能是非正式的，但它仍然存在。

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I've told you before to leave Ogilvie alone.

我过去对你说过别去管奥格尔维。

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Ogilvie describes as being "in the middle of nowhere, " also helps the couple stretch their income.

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Accompanying him on his venture was a co-pilot, Alec Ogilvie, and a four-man support team.

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Mr Ogilvie said government cuts had led to "unprecedented savings" and, therefore, difficult decisions.

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