Value can never be defined in non-evaluative terms, hence the naturalistic fallacy.

价值不可能用非评价性的词来定义，否则就会犯自然主义的错误。

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But it forced him to recognize that interested non - evaluative listening was a potent therapeutic force, even when directed at a narrow sector of life, and when there was no intent of being helpful.

但这件事却让他不得不认识到，带有兴趣的非评论性的倾听是一种非常有效的治疗手段，即使是针对生活中很小的一个方面，即使并没有想在这方面去帮助的意图。

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