Mr Ma says this is deliberate: size will eventually bring rewards.

马先生称，这是经过了考虑的：规模最终会带来收益。

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Mr Ma says it is too early: only 30m of China’s 120m online users have bought anything online.

马云说目前时机还不成熟，在1亿2千万的中国网民中，只有3千万在网上有过购物经验。

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Mr Ma says it is too early: only 30m of China's 120m online users have bought anything online.

马云说目前时机还不成熟，在1亿2千万的中国网民中，其中只有3千万在网上买过东西。

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Mr. Ma says with a smirk, "I pushed him in the fridge" (that is, he gave Mr. Lu a hard time).

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"One needs to constantly remind oneself to play with the abandon of the child who is just learning the cello, " Mr. Ma says.

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Still, Mr. Ma says, he hopes to escape the public eye.

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