And elsewhere: Sue Superville, information center manager at the Museum of New Zealand in Wellington, and Dr. Emma Mbua, Dr. Koen Maes, and Jillani Ngalla of the Kenya National Museum in Nairobi.

其他地方：威灵顿新西兰博物馆信息中心主任Sue Superville；内罗毕肯尼亚国家博物馆的Emma Mbua博士、Koen Maes博士和Jillani Ngalla。

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"We get so much suffering because of eco guards, " Nyaku, a Ba'aka from Mbua, near the administrative centre of Pokola in northern Congo, told Focus On Africa.

BBC: Concern over Congo logging