Jelinek quoted me, as well as the Center for American Progress’s Larry Korb and the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessment’s Todd Harrison.

杰林尼克赞成美国社会进步中心拉里科博和美国战略预算评估中心托迪哈雷森观点，并与我的看法相一致。

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"You can overpenalize people when they stack one penalty on top of another, " says Korb.

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Otherwise, says Korb, the secretaries tend to stay in the shadow of the chiefs of staff and the secretary of Defense.

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