"At the same time, you don't want to encourage that," Kocher said.

“同时，你也不能鼓励那种事”，Kocher说。

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"You don't hope the first layers of defense go and you have to go to the subsequent ones," Kocher said.

“你不能指望第一层防御就顶得住，你还要依靠后续的层层设防”，Kocher说。

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Kocher fully expects that the hacker community to attack BD + and that its backup mechanisms will be needed.

Kocher完全预料到黑客社区会攻击BD +，因而必须有后备机制。

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Venrock is poaching Kocher from McKinsey, where he led the McKinsey Center for Health Reform.

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Kocher is soft-spoken, young and obscure, but his credibility in the encryption business is sterling.

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Polonski was able to loosen it with his finger and a tong-like instrument called Kocher forceps.

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