Katsuma says penalties have to be set up, not just goals, to force companies to change to allow women to work.

胜间说必须建立处罚机制，而不仅仅是目标，来强制公司变革允许女性工作。

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Katsuma Fujii, V-Sync's young chairman, disagrees, arguing that the extra weight will be trivial compared with the pesky small change and plastic cards that users will be able to leave at home.

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