With regards to the Israeli-Palestinian issues mentioned in the programme, I'm not so stupid so as to appreciate that the creation of Israel was rather "dubious" to say the least and I refuse to be apologetic about that belief.

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If it's going to happen one more time, then I'm going to leave the pitch because it's so stupid.

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So, I'm tempted to say, it's not the numbers, stupid, it's the reasoning that's gone into them.

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