When the Palestinians didn’t offer Barak anything in return for his moves on Jerusalem and territory, I went to see Arafat, taking Helal with me to interpret and Malley to take notes.

但是，当巴方对以方在耶路撒冷和领土问题上的行动没有任何回应时，我带着翻译希拉勒和记录员马利去找阿拉法特。

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Ibrahim Helal, thank you very much for sparing the time to talk to us.

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