However, the method also came in for a good deal of criticism. Even Joseph Juran, one of the two American post-war germinators of the quality idea the other was w.

然而，该方法也遭到了很多的批评。甚至包括Joseph Juran，他是美国战后两位质量管理理论的奠基人之一另一位是W。

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Even Joseph Juran, one of the two American post-war germinators of the quality idea (the other was W. Edwards Deming), considered that quality circles were pretty useless if the company's management was not trained in the more general principles of total quality management.

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