And the amazing thing, in this city of euro-experts, this hothouse of euro-detail, where the jargon hangs heavily in the air, is that no-one cansee a way out.
"One cansee how for prisoners in this situation, where there is no light at the end of the tunnel, there is little incentive and a great deal of frustration, and that is what leads to the harm to emotional and mental wellbeing, " Mr Lodder said.